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Posted 4/14/19 , edited 4/14/19
Again, because it really bears repeating haha.

This is the kind of show that you just turn your brain off to watch, don't take it seriously and it'll be mildly fun. The whole story can be summarized as "Boy reincarnates and is OP", though it does have some somewhat interesting explanations as to why he's op (but only somewhat)
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Posted 4/14/19 , edited 4/14/19

Azepael wrote:

Again, because it really bears repeating haha.

This is the kind of show that you just turn your brain off to watch, don't take it seriously and it'll be mildly fun. The whole story can be summarized as "Boy reincarnates and is OP", though it does have some somewhat interesting explanations as to why he's op (but only somewhat)


Do you know what's not funny? Violence and rape.

Do you know what's also not funny? Shitty comedy.

Both are about as far away from one another as they can be, but they both share the trait that to the majority of people, they are not funny.
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Posted 4/15/19 , edited 4/15/19

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I know, right?

In the moments before and immediately after truck-kun, I thought this might be a show I would like. That thought did a 180 very quickly.


The upcoming Jobless Reincarnation uses the same trope, but at least the MC in that uses his former listless life as motivation to better himself in the new world, and he begins life with the knowledge of an adult. The MC in Wiseman's Grandson seems like a borderline moron who just happens to be good with magic in the first episode. So far, there doesn't seem to be any reason this couldn't have just been a straight fantasy without the Isekai trope.
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Azepael wrote:

Again, because it really bears repeating haha.

This is the kind of show that you just turn your brain off to watch, don't take it seriously and it'll be mildly fun. The whole story can be summarized as "Boy reincarnates and is OP", though it does have some somewhat interesting explanations as to why he's op (but only somewhat)


Do you know what's not funny? Violence and rape.

Do you know what's also not funny? Shitty comedy.

Both are about as far away from one another as they can be, but they both share the trait that to the majority of people, they are not funny.
Umm....

Care to point out where I said anything about it being funny? I'll not even saying that this story is good, just that it can be fun in the curb stompy protagonist sort of way that you'll forget about once it's over

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Azepael wrote:


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Azepael wrote:

Again, because it really bears repeating haha.

This is the kind of show that you just turn your brain off to watch, don't take it seriously and it'll be mildly fun. The whole story can be summarized as "Boy reincarnates and is OP", though it does have some somewhat interesting explanations as to why he's op (but only somewhat)


Do you know what's not funny? Violence and rape.

Do you know what's also not funny? Shitty comedy.

Both are about as far away from one another as they can be, but they both share the trait that to the majority of people, they are not funny.
Umm....

Care to point out where I said anything about it being funny? I'll not even saying that this story is good, just that it can be fun in the curb stompy protagonist sort of way that you'll forget about once it's over



I'm saying that even among bland isekais, this was exceptionally bland. It was on par with Smartphone. Smartphone though had at least one good character in the form of Yumina, and she didn't appear until a few episodes in. So maybe there is still hope for this show.

On the other hand we also have Death March, which was actually somewhat interesting for the first few episodes, but then got exceptionally bad because the harem became irrelevant. They were there, and they were in the spotlight, but they had no discernable personalities or traits aside from being infatuated with the main character.

All in all, this show really seems like a bandwagon show, and that's my problem. The premise of isekai, of a normal person traveling to a fantasy world to accomplish great things isn't the problem, it's that like for every show that finds a way to do something interesting with that premise, there are 3-4 that follow the same template of nice socially awkward guy who literally just gets everything handed to him.

An example of the curb stomping dynamic you described that I really enjoyed would be "Knights and Magic." The main character in that was essentially a Gundam Otaku, and they actually built a coherent power fantasy around that plot point. They didn't just use it as a setting for frolicking with cute girls and being a hero. The show was about a Gundam Otaku who built and piloted Gundams that curb stomped Kaiju and evil Humans in their own Gundams. I kind of think of it like the One Punch Man of Isekais.
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lorreen wrote:
I know, right?

In the moments before and immediately after truck-kun, I thought this might be a show I would like. That thought did a 180 very quickly.


There should be an intense seinen series about the man who drives Truck-kun and how he has to deal with the depression and trauma after accidentally running over some bumbling teenage moron.

By the end of every season he would finally seem to make peace with himself and then in the finale episode yet another bumbling teenage moron would walk out in front of his truck. Thus resetting the status quo for the next season.

If we could get Rumiko Takahashi to write it then it would go on for 50+ volumes until it manages to kill the trope itself through sheer audience exhaustion.

>.>


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lorreen wrote:
I know, right?

In the moments before and immediately after truck-kun, I thought this might be a show I would like. That thought did a 180 very quickly.


There should be an intense seinen series about the man who drives Truck-kun and how he has to deal with the depression and trauma after accidentally running over some bumbling teenage moron.

By the end of every season he would finally seem to make peace with himself and then in the finale episode yet another bumbling teenage moron would walk out in front of his truck. Thus resetting the status quo for the next season.

If we could get Rumiko Takahashi to write it then it would go on for 50+ volumes until it manages to kill the trope itself through sheer audience exhaustion.

>.>


I 'd watch that.
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Posted 4/16/19 , edited 4/16/19

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lorreen wrote:
I know, right?

In the moments before and immediately after truck-kun, I thought this might be a show I would like. That thought did a 180 very quickly.


There should be an intense seinen series about the man who drives Truck-kun and how he has to deal with the depression and trauma after accidentally running over some bumbling teenage moron.

By the end of every season he would finally seem to make peace with himself and then in the finale episode yet another bumbling teenage moron would walk out in front of his truck. Thus resetting the status quo for the next season.

If we could get Rumiko Takahashi to write it then it would go on for 50+ volumes until it manages to kill the trope itself through sheer audience exhaustion.

>.>




Would check it out.
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runec wrote:


lorreen wrote:
I know, right?

In the moments before and immediately after truck-kun, I thought this might be a show I would like. That thought did a 180 very quickly.






I dunno, I think they already made a movie out of Truck-kun called Duel, directed by Stephen Spielberg
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If two Truck-kuns crash into each other do both of them get transported to another world?
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uncletim wrote:If two Truck-kuns crash into each other do both of them get transported to another world?
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…as Baobab trees

The Panke baobab in Zimbabwe was some 2,450 years old when it died in 2011, making it the oldest angiosperm ever documented
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xxJing wrote:Do you know what's funny?
that deathmarch and smartphone are actually two different garbo-shows and some poor souls actually know the difference between them
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uncletim wrote:If two Truck-kuns crash into each other do both of them get transported to another world?
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…as Baobab trees

The Panke baobab in Zimbabwe was some 2,450 years old when it died in 2011, making it the oldest angiosperm ever documented
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I think the quaking aspen would be more apropos, since they basically reincarnate themselves and live for tens of thousands of years.
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If two Truck-kuns crash into each other-


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Ep 1

Just about as generic of an isekai/fantasy as it gets. I mean, Shin even declared the thugs in an alleyway scene to be generic, as if the writers think that excuses including it in the first place. Wasn't Shin supposed to have all of his memories from his past life? Yet he still doesn't understand simple things like common sense and shopping? Ugh.

Still, the show is lighthearted and colorful enough. If the side characters are interesting enough the show might still be fun.

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Posted 4/16/19 , edited 4/17/19

Azepael wrote:

Again, because it really bears repeating haha.

This is the kind of show that you just turn your brain off to watch, don't take it seriously and it'll be mildly fun. The whole story can be summarized as "Boy reincarnates and is OP", though it does have some somewhat interesting explanations as to why he's op (but only somewhat)



Yeah that generally sums up three quarters of most Isekai shows doesn't it. Still, an OP protagonist can still be interesting with the right twists. One of the more interesting ones I've come across is "The Wrong way to use Healing Magic". Fun series with some crazy ideas I wish I could pull off in D&D as a healer.
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