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Posted 4/7/19 , edited 4/13/19
This show is fine.

I see a lot of complaints about the girls having weak motivations for the things they want to do. It's been a while since I was in Highschool, but I remember signing up for "Guitar Class" one year because Guitar Hero was a thing and I thought it might help me pick up chicks. In summary, I made dumb decisions for dumb reasons, and now I can kind of play guitar. My point is that in a world where you are supposed to know what you want to do with the rest of your life, if you've got a shallow reason, maybe that's all the reason you need to want to go in that direction.

If you really look at it, the guy's motivation is that he wants to fix his family's money troubles. Beyond "Get the VIP recommendation so I can get a scholarship to a good school" he has no real plan. To borrow the old SouthPark meme, it goes 1) Get scholarship, 2) go to good school, 3) ??? 4) Profit. While the two girls in the show want to make arguably frivolous choices because that will make them happy, our main dude has essentially made the opposite choice, of selling his happiness for the sake of those around him.

In the first chapter of the manga there is more of an introduction of the two geniuses that shows our main guy being frustrated with how easy things seem to come to the geniuses. I feel like if that had been in the anime it would have made them confessing their motivations, and him deciding to help them pop a little bit more.

I feel like the biggest hurdle that this show is facing is that it is coming up immediately after Quints. With both of them being shows about a guy who is poor having to be a tutor for adorable waifu candidates, the comparisons are going to be made. I wonder if it had come out in the summer season instead if the similarities might have actually helped it by appealing to people who had spent a couple of months with the emptiness where Quints used to be.
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Posted 4/7/19 , edited 4/7/19
First episode was entertaining enough I suppose. Really looking forward to the dark skinned girl with tan lines.
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Premise and motivations seem no less or more lame than most of the other shows of this type that have gone before it.

Luffy literally has a more believable motivation for his career path so far
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Posted 4/7/19 , edited 4/13/19

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I see a lot of complaints about the girls having weak motivations for the things they want to do. .


my complaint is despite getting angry over people telling them to forget their dreams and do what they are good at, when Nariyuki asked Riza to actually do some work in the subject she claims to want to study, she turned her nose up at the work. It's not her motivations that are the problem, it's her contradictory attitude.
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Posted 4/7/19 , edited 4/7/19
Since Nisekoi will probably never get a full adaptation, I guess this is the next best thing. I know of this series, but never got around to reading it. Although I'm expecting a good time.

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The anime may have poorly contextualized Rizu's attitude but it also demonstrated the effort she's making behind the scenes. Her attitude stemmed from her frustrations at repeated failures and an endless stream of tutors who all took a generic approach and then quit, Nariyuki is the first to try and understand how both of them think and match their efforts.

As usual "the manga did it better" I think, plus this adaptation isn't exactly scoring 100.

And obviously there's more behind why both are choosing futures they love rather than ones they feel shoved into.
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IForgetHisName wrote:
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I see a lot of complaints about the girls having weak motivations for the things they want to do. .


my complaint is despite getting angry over people telling them to forget their dreams and do what they are good at, when Nariyuki asked Riza to actually do some work in the subject she claims to want to study, she turned her nose up at the work. It's not her motivations that are the problem, it's her contradictory attitude.


That's called being a tsundere.

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I had nothing better to do so I decided to pick this one up. to be honest it's not all that bad, I can tell where it's going and high school anime misadventures and all that, however I'm going to give it a bit to decide. I don't normally pick up these sort of things right off, I tend to drift towards them if I've ran low on my other typical genre. it's interesting, so hopefully it'll hold my attention span for the duration.
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HOOfan_1 wrote:


IForgetHisName wrote:
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I see a lot of complaints about the girls having weak motivations for the things they want to do. .


my complaint is despite getting angry over people telling them to forget their dreams and do what they are good at, when Nariyuki asked Riza to actually do some work in the subject she claims to want to study, she turned her nose up at the work. It's not her motivations that are the problem, it's her contradictory attitude.


Rizu never turned up her nose at doing work. She turned up her nose at doing work with Nariyuki specifically. I know it's a bit cliche to say, but the manga did it better (honestly, they burned through half a volume worth of content in a single episode, so how could it not). What was more sub-text in the anime, but was text in the manga is that Nariyuki is Rizu's 7th tutor. If I went to 6 different people looking for the answer I wanted and none of them could give it to me I wouldn't waste too much energy on the 7th. In the manga this pays off with a really funny joke after he gives them back their work-books where it is revealed that neither of them bothered to learn his name. It was a really funny moment in the book and would have gotten a solid laugh in the anime. I'm not sure why they omitted it, other than possibly because of the very fanservicy moment that followed it.
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We Never Learn [(Bokutachi Benkyo ga Dekinai) EP # 1 “Genius and X Are Two Sides of the Same Coin”

Tutor animes have become popular and this has the usual tropes but is still good / I like the animation detailed and looks hand drawn
The 2 high IQ students the genius Fumino Furuhashi and Rizu Ogatawho

Next in line is Nariyuki Yuiga trying for the ‘Special VIP Recommendation He has to study more to keep up / He needs a scholarship

The haeadmaster wiil do that for him but he has to tutor the 2 top students to get into the schools they want Problem is all the previous tutors quit

He quickly finds out thet want Liberal Arts instead of humanities / maths and science

They have problems with the entrance exam So he has them work on thier weak points but it gets worse Nari suggests why not take the exam they are strong in Both get upset thinking he has given up on them

They left their notebooks and he writes notes in them to help them out All 3 get to understand each other better!


OP rocks "Ready Study Go!"

I like the Chalkboard ending / "Never Give It Up!"

Both performed by Study ( the Va's ) Fumino -Haruka Shiraishi / Rizu Ogata -Miyu Tomita, and Uruka Takemoto -Sayumi Suzushiro
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Posted 4/13/19 , edited 4/13/19
Ep 1

It was ok. I was hoping that we would get motivations for the girls wanting to try so hard to improve themselves in where they lack, but I wasn't expecting those ideas to be brought up in the first episode. I'm certain they'll be expanded upon later (with any luck) so I'm not too caught up in that for the time being. The concept does certainly provide opportunity for comedy though.

Things are likely to improve as more characters are added. I wonder if they are all going to be geniuses?

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Episode 2

Here comes this show's version of Yotsuba in Uruka, who is the dumb jock. She's a stud swimmer, but her academics are abysmal. Naruyuki should have thought better than to run around the pool and get all touchy feely with Uher. Meanwhile, Rizu is is studying at Nariyuki's place, but Uruka, who was supposed to be doing karaoke, comes over instead, and because Nariyuki's family is having trouble paying the electricity bill that the power went out. And even though Nariyuki didn't do anything to help Rizu she wrote that essay. And Uruka is cramming seeing that supplementary lessons mean no swim club activity, and Naruyuki came up with a way to mix studying with swimming to help her out. Uruka sure has some screws loose seeing that she's all about swimming and nothing else matters, but she will have to really study up.
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Posted 4/13/19 , edited 4/13/19
lol, I'm sure there some guys who would love that gift.

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#4. Climete?
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Uruka was fun, I like all the girls and this guy isn't a tool so I'm enjoying this show.
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