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Posted 4/30/19 , edited 4/30/19
Episode 5 kinda felt like a Steins;Gate episode to be honest...

I can't stand the guy that has been harassing Ayumi. Good thing Kaori knocked him out with that plant pot, well deserved.
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Man, this show is getting really good, that was a great episode. It did start slow, and the main character is a jerk....probably because of the crap he has gone through in his life, but we are getting to the meat of the plot now.

In the My Anime List forums last week, most of the people who are watching this story for the first time, claimed that Toyotomi was blackmailing Ayumi into sex. Then someone who supposedly read the Light Novel came along and just lambasted us all and said he was not blackmailing her, he was just taking advantage of her despair. This episode PROVES that he was blackmailing her. First of all he set her up for the despair by hiring the mafia goons to attack her, so that he could come in and look like a savior, and he stole that envelope to try and frame her for selling company secrets

Now let's look at a definition of blackmail


black·mail
/ˈblakˌmāl/


force (someone) to do something by using threats or manipulating their feelings.







That fits the above definition to a 'T'

I'm not sure what was more satisfying though, seeing Toyotomi get his ass kicked multiple times, or seeing Takuya slap some sense into Ayumi.

It's plain for anyone to see that Steins;Gate really took this story as a template and ran with it.

Event Schwarzschild Radius...that's obviously what the World Line Convergence Points in Steins;Gate were modeled after.

Ayumi is Takuya's Mayuri..I wonder if he only loves her platonically.



We already saw an Oopa in Yu-no...now we saw some Gero Froggies

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Posted 4/30/19 , edited 4/30/19
This shit is hilarious.

The episode was like "how can we one up the last suicide attempt with something even more absurd?"
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This shit is hilarious.

The episode was like "how can we one up the last suicide attempt with something even more absurd?"


Steins;Gate did basically the same thing...




At first watching of the episode, I thought it might have exonerated Kaori of conspiring with Toyotomi, but thinking back on it.

How did she get those pictures of Toyotomi with the mafia?

She ended up getting the blue card she wanted, because of those pictures...very convenient.

Also, how did she know to be exactly where she needed to be to hit him with that flower pot?

She also dissuaded Takuya from handing him over to the police and claimed she would take care of him. So it's possible him getting beat up was actually part of their plan.
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YU-NO: A girl who chants love at the bound of this world ( Kono Yo no Hate de Koi o Utau Shojo YU-NO) EP # 5 Spiral of Tragedy

I was going to spoil / but this so bad IMO

I have a lot of rants / one thing I am having fun watching how stupid staff are this season putiing out utter senseless garbarge storylines

And where is YUNO / this should be Days of Ayumi ( like a daytime soap opreas )

I guess this is a lousy takeoff on Bill Murray and "Groundhog Day"

BTW I lost a lot of respect for Ayumi / she's pretty dense

Takuya is EMT How deos he know how much blood Ayumi lost ( It isant a battlefield or remote laocation ) I know she may be in trouble but WTH if she's dead ?

Takuya resets but why did he go back to school couldnt he have done at hsi point in time / or am I mistaken about how the device works

He punches / throws Toyotomi out of the house

Ayumi hangs herself

Then we go to hentai / just great when are we going to advance the story I have Yuno only once

WTH does he explain to Ayumi the 3rd time that Toyotomi setTakuya her up I get she wants proof but come on the 3rd time

Please Ayumi passes out and how stupid she falls in front of a truck

Oh now we have the thugs that harrased Ayumi beatin him up

At this point I am beyond belief as Ayumi does the pill route

So in lieu of being boring Suicide methods

So Suicide in Japan is a very serious problem I am kinda shocked it got treated like a prop




So Takuya reads the instructions so instead he takes Ayumi's ID card and gives it to reporter Kaori

She gives him a file ( unkown ) then herself but Takuya refuses

He does another go back this times shows Ayumi / Toyotomi pics of him talikin to allt the thugs

Toyotomi runs away with Takuya after him but Kaori ( who just happens to be in the right place smashes a flower pot on Him butcant send him to the cops becuase the story about Ayumi is about to break

Takuya goes home and Ayumi is about to cut she oes but not deep enough and he slaps her

They have a big argument but Takuya says he will prove her innocence
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Posted 4/30/19 , edited 5/1/19
Umm... any chance we'll ever see Yu-no again? You know, the chick who's actually in the title of the show but apparently not in the show itself? Anyway, feels like an arc is over. Hope something more interesting si coming down the pipe.
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Kaori is easily becoming my favorite character in the show now.
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Episode 6: I'm afraid that there's one scene here that I can't forgive. Takuya confronts the bad guys and they spill all the information about their plans. Takuya has cleverly arranged for the guards in the complex to hear every word. The thing is, they're having this nice, long conversation WHILE THE ALARMS ARE GOING OFF. The bad guys should be LEAVING. Hanging around so long would get them caught whether the guards heard their conversation or not.

The writing in this show has been weak in the first place, but that scene is just inept.
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HOOfan_1 wrote:

Obviously Toyotomi has been shady since the beginning, but the green haired reporter is shady as hell too. She's paying people off to protest Geotech. She was bullying Ayumi, she seems to be working with Ryuzoji, who pulled the gun on Takuya in the first episode. I think she is trying to get into Geotech to steal information, not expose them, and I wouldn't be surprised if she is working with Toyotomi. Perhaps Toyotomi doesn't have enough access in the company to get to what she wants, but he had the opportunity to steal that envelope and frame Ayumi, and then Kaori tricks Takuya to help her break in to Geotech. .



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At first watching of the episode, I thought it might have exonerated Kaori of conspiring with Toyotomi, but thinking back on it.

How did she get those pictures of Toyotomi with the mafia?

She ended up getting the blue card she wanted, because of those pictures...very convenient.

Also, how did she know to be exactly where she needed to be to hit him with that flower pot?

She also dissuaded Takuya from handing him over to the police and claimed she would take care of him. So it's possible him getting beat up was actually part of their plan.


Well, look at the big brain on Brad....
Honestly Takuya probably should have seen through her as well...

It sure was nice of the two mastermind baddies to explain their entire plan to Takuya. When the police interviewed him, he could easily tell them Kaori was in on the plot and let him in the building. The guards knew she was there, and she was caught on camera, so I doubt the police would just leave that thread alone, they would have gone and investigated Kaori and probably found her dirty secrets.

It was also nice of Geotech to surround their entire compound with a 10 foot high fence with barbed wire at the top, and then leave a break at the most vulnerable point with a 3 foot high fence that any 5 year old could hop over.



Also, if Ayumi truly was under suspicion of selling confidential information, then why wouldn't GeoTech have deactivated her badge?

I really do like the show, but there are quite a lot of plot holes here.



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He's not really turning back time either, they explained it as jumping to alternate worlds. His father even pointed out that if he jumps back in time to change an event, then he has gotten rid of the event which prompted him to jump back in time, so you can't really change the past.

If this is the case though, he is only changing his conscious reality, and Ayumi is still dead on the world his conscious left.


Here's something else I pointed out earlier. He isn't really changing events, he is only hoping to alternate realities where the events haven't happened yet. At least the show did address this "plot hole". However, instead of going back to his original world, where all of the bad stuff has already happened, he apparently gets to go back to the beginning and start over again? I guess from what his father was telling him at the end, "causality" is resetting itself. However, it seems to me causality would only be a factor, if he was indeed time traveling. After all, that is what his father told him. He said, we can't change the past, because if we do, then we erase the reason we had of going back in the past to begin with....that's causality.
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This show is dumb. And yet I keep watching. For the time being. "A Grand Canyon filled with the dreams of men," indeed.
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This show is dumb. And yet I keep watching. For the time being. "A Grand Canyon filled with the dreams of men," indeed.


It actually has the potential to be really good, but the writers are horrible and fill it with plot holes. People are saying the story is being changed a bit from the Visual Novels, so perhaps the plot holes are being introduced exclusively by the show writers.

1) Toyotomi should have been blackmailing Ayumi without actually alerting the company that research data was missing. That way they wouldn't deactivate her access card. Toyotomi could have convinced her that GeoTech thought she stole the data and sold it to those mafia guys, and told her to stay away from GeoTech and he would clear her name.

2) Place a fake call to Takuya at school convincing him that GeoTech is about to fire Ayumi and have her arrested. Then use that as an excuse to get him to steal Ayumi's access card.

3) Don't let Takuya think Toyotomi is out of the picture. Convince him that Toyotomi is going to steal something from GeoTech, and frame Ayumi for stealing it, but they need to steal it first, because if Toyotomi gets it, then it will instantly disappear and they won't be able to clear Ayumi's name.

4) Use Toyotomi as a reason that Kaori needs to enter GeoTech late at night, they then become each other's alibi. Toyotomi who has a reason to be in the building, and has access to most of it, props open the back door for Takuya. Kaori tells Takuya before he even enters the building that she needs to be in the control room to open the door. That way she is never seen on camera walking around the building with Takuya.

5) Takuya steals the ore, and gets out of the building. He goes to meet Kaori outside of the building and then she and Toyotomi ambush him and take the ore.

6) Pictures of Ayumi meeting with the mafia guys are "leaked" to Kaori's new show and Takuya's fingerprints are found all over GeoTech, and it is seen that Ayumi's access badge was used the night the ore was stolen.

Sure, a lot of stuff would have to go right, and you would have to suspend some disbelief, like any Oceans 11 type heist, but at least that eliminates some of the plot holes.

With the current story, not only would a lot of things have to go exactly right for their plot to work, but it is full of plot holes.
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The plot holes are annoying, but what really is bugging me is that the girl Yu-No - the one in the title - is a Yu-No-Show. Six eppies in and we've seen about 5 seconds of her. You've got a premise about parallel worlds and you spend your first six episodes on an arc about a dopey teenager saving his stepmom from corporate shenanigans? Gimme a friggin' break.
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greyhooter wrote:

The plot holes are annoying, but what really is bugging me is that the girl Yu-No - the one in the title - is a Yu-No-Show. Six eppies in and we've seen about 5 seconds of her. You've got a premise about parallel worlds and you spend your first six episodes on an arc about a dopey teenager saving his stepmom from corporate shenanigans? Gimme a friggin' break.


I imagine these first 6 episodes were setting up for more to come.

Remember Kaori was talking to Ryuzoji (bearded guy who pulled a gun on Takuya in the first episode). She asked him if he could really use some item, and expressed doubt about working with a certain man. I assume the item she was asking him if he really needed was the ore she was trying to frame Takuya for stealing. She was staring out the window at the creepy dude who Kanna eventually ended up with, when she said something about feeling uncomfortable about working with "him", but I think that was a Red Herring perhaps, she was probably telling Ryuzoji that she didn't trust working with Toyotomi.

So I would guess Ryuzoji is trying to get that stone and more of Takuya's father's research and that will play a large part in the story's plot. I also assume that the blue orbs on the device Takuya uses to jump between worlds are pieces of the crystallized ore, like he was trying to steal from GeoTech. Also, the necklace that Kanna wears, probably has a piece of that ore on it.

Kanna has been warning Takuya and his friends to stay away from that island, and leaving flowers there. I am sure that probably has something more to do with the story, and perhaps Yu-No herself.

We've also had foreshadowing with the Mitsuki (woman with short brown hair who is Ryuzoji's secretary) telling Takuya that she gets migraines, and the fact that Takuya said using the device gives him headaches.

There has been a lot of set up and foreshadowing in this show for events which I assume are yet to come.
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YU-NO: A girl who chants love at the bound of this world ( Kono Yo no Hate de Koi o Utau Shojo YU-NO) EP # 6 Beyond A Pale Light

That actually was good EP / present matters with Ayumi got settled but the future of Takuya is in serious ???


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Hmm, I saw that female professor with the glasses in the opening and figured she was Takuya's mom. I certainly didn't expect a blond haired foreigner to be his mother...she sure looked like Yu-No from the back, but when Ryuzoji described her, he mentioned she was blind, fair skinned and had blond hair, but he never mentioned she had pointy ears...that would be the most defining feature....so if she was Yu-No, I would think he would have said that.

This was definitely a very exposition heavy episode. Another episode meant to set up plot points.

Things that the show seems to want to make obvious to the viewer are: the importance of that tapestry, the fact that Mitsuki is having migraines, Ryuzoji seems to have some sort of hypnotic power, Ryuzoji's mother seems to think he is different (from another world perhaps), and she seems to be telling the kids that they need to start thinking outside the box.

I wonder if perhaps Yu-No and maybe Takuya's mother are from the race that created the device. Perhaps their society was like Atlantis, and they destroyed themselves in the end, and very few survived. Perhaps the tapestry shows the destruction of their society.
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