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Posted 10/23/18 , edited 10/24/18
Natsuo is too subservient to her. I have never seen what Natsuo and Rui have as true love. His reaction to Serizawa's kiss shows the cracks in their relationship. The way Natsuo acts is not normal - it is not a normal reaction. He is in a relationship with the wrong girl.

I haven't seen anything to recommend Serizawa - she seems judgmental, hypocritical, generic and boring.
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Posted 10/24/18 , edited 10/24/18
I would actually beg to differ. If anything I would say his reaction is classic Natsuo and of this manga genre. In fact, I believe he would be completely out of character if he ran after Miyabi. From what I read Natsuo obviously feels conflicted on how he should handle the “another girl in love with me now and Rui was right” situation. He’s the “nice guy” that doesn’t exactly flat out reject women that go after him (which is why he gets into trouble all the time). Momo was so right about him being so indecisive!

And then regarding Rui's side with the chef. Based on how the manga has portrayed Rui's character, I'm still sticking with she's not going to do anything that would compromise her relationship with Natsuo. Or else this manga wouldn’t be called Domestic Girlfriend right? (lol) History has shown that she’s pretty loyal to Natsuo, but we have also seen her character evolve (unlike Hina). So could she have a change of heart? Maybe, but I still doubt it.

The other reason why I’m still sticking to Rui and Natsuo is through for the past 70+ chapters, they managed to survive a whole bunch of situations that a lot of people thought (including myself) would result in a break up(i.e. the drunk confession from Hina, Miyabi’s sneak attack at Natsuo’s apartment wearing sexy lingerie, and especially the stabbing/hospital arc). Those could have been major opportunities to change the tide into Hina’s or Miyabi’s favor, but it didn’t.

So if the author does use the “long distance relationships shouldn’t work so let’s bring in some competition to break them up” type of storyline as the reason for the Rui/Natsuo breakup, I would personally think it’s a huge cop out/cliche of an excuse. But then again, this is manga that feeds off of cheesy drama and ecchi comedy, so really anything’s possible.

Also there are still some key points about Hina that still haven’t exactly been discussed or brought to light yet (i.e Hina hiding the rings, parents knowing about Hina and Natsuo’s past relationship and Rui knowing about this, Hina’s lifelong pledge to be Natsuo’s “guardian angel”). And until those have been addressed I think anything’s possible.

My guess on the next chapter is either they'll emphasize on Rui's issue or Natsuo's. I'm hoping for Rui's side because I really want to know how serious the Chef is about Rui and how she will respond. Oh the drama!
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Posted 10/25/18 , edited 10/28/18
Sorry, I wasn't very clear about which reaction I was talking about.

I never expected Natsuo to go after Miyabi. That is clearly inappropriate behaviour. Geez, she's like Rui light.

I am talking about what looked like shame, regret and his subsequent depression. What exactly is causing all of this? For me, this seems like an overblown reaction for something that was clearly not his fault. He has nothing to do with what Miyabi did. He doesn't have any special romantic feelings towards her. She doesn't seem to be any type of special friend to him so why does he act like this? Your point about Momo made me laugh because it was those characteristics of him being too nice and indecisive, being lead by his dick when his heart was not involved that lead both Momo and especially Rui to get close to him. I find that ironic that while they had no problem using that particular 'door', they want it now firmly closed to other females. But that could be seen as normal by some, I guess.

Next week should let us know what he is really this upset over. Is he upset over Miyabi? Well, he never lead her on. The only thing she used to do was blush and run away. He would not have necessarily believed that Rui was right about Miyabi because Rui was been plagued with jealousy. In that respect Rui has not evoved, she has just learned to hide her jealousy better. She tried the cold treatment on Hina again after she was out in the rain in the mountain with Natsuo and Natsuo did not indulge her.

Rui is not trying to break up with him. She's obsessed with holding on to him and deathly afraid of someone doing to her kinda what she did to Hina.

This manga is popular so Sasuga Sensei is going to stretch it out as long as she can and Rui has the most fans so this would weigh heavily on her Sasuga's decision for the end.

But I honestly think that Kajita is better suited for Rui. Since the beginning he has been able to deal with her excesses probably because he's a calm and mature guy.

There is no reason for Natsuo to be this depressed. For me, it's a signal that there is something not quite right in that relationship.

That doesn't mean that Rui and Natsuo won't end up together. We will have to see if Serizawa is really out of the picture. I think she also has a better chance of ending up with Natsuo than Hina.

Hina's the one I read this for - I am hoping that she has a happy resolution most of all. Yeah, I'm hooked on this craziness and I'll keep reading and hoping that she doesn't make Hina get hit by a bus.

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Posted 10/25/18 , edited 10/26/18
When I first started this manga I had no particular favorites in mind, but as it progressed I started siding with Rui because she started changing. I mean she went from not understanding what love was, to learning what it is to love someone, being rejected by her first love, being in love again, to learning how to control her love so she doesn’t become too possessive. Is she going to be jealous if he’s hanging out with another girl (and think about the beach scene with Mao, Hina being drunk naked, or even when Miyabi was caught in the act or when she kissed him). Um yes, I think it’s pretty natural for her to be a little possessive if Natsuo is in all these compromising positions. But you also see a side of Rui recognizing that she can’t always be like that (ie the one month pact) And hey, Natsuo’s gotten a little jealous over the chef too because he’s seen how he’s pushing her buttons and is always around her. So this jealousy thing is really happening on both ends.

As for Natsuo being depressed, I think he’s just feeling super conflicted. Like “my friend that I really like as only a friend just told me she likes me. And my girlfriend warned me but I didn’t believe it. *bleep*” And I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want to tell Rui because that’ll just confirm her concerns that she had before she left. (Similar to how he felt when Hina came back home for that New Year’s visit but worse.)

I really want to see Hina be happy no matter what but a move forward type of happiness as opposed to taking a step back and waiting for Natsuo to change his mind. I just wish the author could find the right guy for her.

Here’s hoping everyone comes out of this happy!
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Posted 10/26/18 , edited 10/26/18
This is not about the plot but I cant read the chapters on my pc and cant even find the series on my Ipad.

Anyone else has this problem and any idea on how to fix it?
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Posted 10/26/18 , edited 10/27/18
It doesn’t seem to be compatible on apple devices. Only on PC (if you have flash on). Hope this helps!
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Posted 10/28/18 , edited 10/28/18
It was the opposite reaction for me. I knew that based on the usual tropes, the first girl we see and the one who is a virgin, as long as the male mc character is the one who sleeps with her is the f mc. Okay, she's rude, selfish. Okay, i've seen that type before but when after she saw natsuo kiss her sister, she just changed for the worst. I found his interactions with Hina sweet while he was trying to getting along with Rui, she started getting more and more clingy. I saw that she was changing but that was mainly thanks to natsuo's efforts and her being around him as he worked towards his goals.

The characteristics of hers that turned me off, she still displays. Well, that's how I feel. I don't expect anyone to agree with this. But this is the problem with normalising dysfunction. What she displays is not real love - jealousy and possessiveness stem from distrust and insecurity. How she acts now is not something that she feels organically, she was ridiculed into acting like she isn't bothered. But Natsuo is really not fooled by her act. While he was recovering from near death, she stays away from him because she hears the parents say they should have given Hina and natsuo their blessing instead of disapproval. He has to explain to her that he didn't save Hina because he was still in love with her. That's crazy - she should have stayed by his side to offer him the emotional support he needed instead of making what they said about her. Those things you mentioned to give her a pass for her behaviour were out of his control and were written to get a cheap rise out of the readers.

Also, her true reaction to Miyabi was to stick Hina on him like a guard dog/nursemaid and then selfishly play the little sister card, knowing how Hina still feels.

Back to why he's depressed. I would really be surprised if how he feels has a lot to do with Miyabi. Previously when she questioned him about his relationships with the sisters, instead of telling her to mind her damned business, he told her everything and she basically called him a pervert. Wasn't that them leaving things on bad terms? While he felt bad for a while, he moved on. He meets her for a few minutes, she praises his book, hands him tickets, blushes and runs off. What's changed? I think it has to do with Rui. But that he has to be like this when he did nothing wrong and his jealousy over Kajita are symptoms of something wrong in that relationship. But we'll see when the next issue comes out.

But I can't agree with you that Hina's just waiting for him to change his mind. Of course, for Sasuga, Hina is just a source of conflict to keep driving this popular manga. But I feel that in order for Hina to get over him, she needs more time and space. The love and support of her family could help with this. But her family is his family and they all have to interact. Hina also had to watch Natsuo almost die in front of her. She's still dealing with that trauma. Being forced to interact with him so closely cannot help.

I also am not a NatsuoxHina shipper. While I loved their brief romance, he did show that he was too young and not resolute enough to be with her. She was right to break up with him. Even now, he selfishly took her help and even though he realised that she was having a hard time, he used her and only acknowledged her condition after he completed his work.

Perhaps he'll decide that he need to change and he will feel his growing reaction to Hina is a betrayal of Rui and he pushes Hina away. That should help her to heal.
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Posted 10/29/18 , edited 10/29/18
Honestly, I don't like Natsuo with either of the two sisters. I get that the manga is called domestic girlfriend, and I expect that kind of ending, but I feel like none of the three siblings are really happy in that situation. I thougth Momo was best girl for a while and I'm glad that she is happy, but I preferred Natsuo with her or Serizawa than with Hina or Rui. Same thing with Rui, I feel like I have some people who agree with me that Rui is better off with Kajita. The ship makes sense and I feel like the characters actually have more in common and more grounds for a relationship. They actually like eachother inside of the workplace and get along outside of it vs Natsuo which just feels like "You are here and I'm horny let's ****"
I do hope Hina is happy, but to be happy she has to let Natsuo go. She needs to find someone for her.
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Posted 11/6/18 , edited 11/7/18
In defense of Hina, it's not so much as she's holding on to him because this is what she wants. But time and events (better known as Sasuga) conspire against her. After coming back from her exile, she realises that her feelings for him haven't changed. She agrees to consider the arranged marriage that her mother has suggested but before she can make up her mind, the pushy guy comes to her and tries to take over her life. Then Natsuo jumps in front of a knife to save her life. She feels she owes him a debt.

I feel like Natsuo is going to have to reject her outright for her to move on. Even if she did find someone else, it won't work out if there's already someone in her heart.
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Posted 11/14/18 , edited 4/20/19
I hope Natsuo rejects Hina so that she can move on, personally I think Natsuo and Rui work out really well and I am definitely on the Rui train.
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Posted 11/15/18 , edited 11/16/18
I actually meant moving on in the context that Hina does not allow Rui or Natsuo to use her for their personal gains. I don't see any reciprocity especially on the part of Hina's sister. I'm not interested in any ship and I certainly don't think that Rui and Natsuo's relationship is interesting. I think Hina needs to take care of her mental health and to pay more attention to her career.

I thought that Natsuo's most recent depression stemmed from Miyabi's kissing him. It was a bit of misdirection even if it was mentioned by Rui that he had not started on his new project. Why does he keep confiding his deepest secrets to Serizawa? Is he really that close to her to be doing that? Is it just to inform the readers of what's happening or is Sasuga hinting that there's something about Miyabi?

Then there is the potential big reveal to the mystery that I didn't know or care about.

I'm grateful to still be getting chapters but what's really happening? I feel like she's trying to establish a time jump so that, as she said, feelings change, and while I love seeing Hina get featured, I'm not one of those who gets riled up if she's even just in a scene with Natsuo, I'd just prefer not to see her get groped (unintentionally, I know) or further taken advantage of by her ungrateful siblings.
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Posted 11/19/18 , edited 11/19/18
Ahh, nice to find a discussion on this in here. I just started re-reading last week this after a hiatus of a couple of months and was delighted to find the new chapters after just having reached chapter 80 of my second tilt or so. Needless to say, I force-binged over the weekend and am now a bit deflated by the current status quo.
I like Miyabi, whom I can somewhat relate to (I never managed to communicate well with my crushes, too, until I met my wife in *drumroll* a drama group), I like Rui (whose looks remind me uncannily of the only girl/woman I ever had a proper crush on after I got together with my wife), and I dearly wish Hina would get over Natsuo and start living as a functional member of society.
Kajita is ... difficult to warm to.
As for the compatibility issues: Noooo, no, no! Work and love should not mix too much, so a clear no to the New York shipment.
As for the writer's block: Miyabi is only the catalyst. There are underlying issues and as they are a bit more complex, Nat-kun is, as usual, unable to work them out alone. The main one, IMHO, is Rui's absence, and not the character of their relationship. In fact, Rui is the one who usually worked things out for him in the later two thirds of the series so far, but maybe a dose of Mary and Fumiya might just iron out most of that kink.
And please, please, please, let Hina get over her catholic-nun-like devotion to Natsuo and start acting as an adult. Even let her get back with Shuu, for all I care, but just make her less irritating, as I found her very likeable to begin with.
Then all we need is for Miyabi to find another goal in life and for some minor characters to have a nice conclusion to their storylines, and the whole story to be bookended by Rui x Natsuo.
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Posted 11/20/18 , edited 11/21/18

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Okay I started reading this because I was bored at work and didn't have anything to do at the time. Little did I know that this was so darn addictive. I ended up getting all of the missing chapters that aren't available on CR just so I could find out what happens to Natsuo, Hina, and Rui. Let me tell you right now, it is absolutely worth the money. Some of the chapters aren't entirely necessary but it they provide a good distraction from the main theme running between the three MC's.

Personally I am firmly in the Rui camp, Hina can grow up and just move on...


What kind of job do you have that you can read Manga and get paid?
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Posted 11/21/18 , edited 11/21/18
Yep, same story - Hina needs to exile herself permanently because even though she is doing nothing consciously to upset my ship, the mc seems to be reacting even though he's got the greatest love EVER and its only her to blame cause its the greatest LOVE EVER and she should know that she isn't allowed to even breathe in Natsuo's direction because he might forget he's in the gratest luv evah!

I don't understand what Hina is doing to not be an adult. Are adults not able to find it tough to get over bad breakups especially when the person will always be a part of your life and is connected to people who are precious to you?
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